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Untitled, watercolor 1979? by James Rich
This painting is a watercolor Jim did many years ago, when we were first together. I remember when he painted it. It's a small watercolor on paper; about 18" by 18". He was going through his old portfolios last night and found it.
I told him it was an "interesting painting" and that it reminded me of an alien; some kind of alien painting. He said he had no idea what was going on when he painted that; what he was thinking or why he painted it. No recollection of the inspiration or what he was trying to do.
He asked me what I meant by "alien painting" I said, well, it immediately, for some reason, just screamed alien and spaceship at me. I have the impression the ant is female, very large, "alien," and is holding something, some sort of tablet. Jim looked at it and said he saw what I meant. I reminded Jim of all the giant insect alien stories; usually praying mantis type creatures, or giant grasshopper type beings some speak about in connection with UFO encounters. After he looked at it he said it reminded him of a female being as well; probably because of the way it's sitting and the long robe or whatever it is it/she is wearing.
It was at that time that Jim and I were experiencing a lot of unusual UFO events, including an episode of missing time. I had my "Geisha Woman Alien" dream during that time frame.
Speaking of alien insectoid beings, in a bit of synchronicity I was listening to George Noory last night on C2C. (By the way, say what you will about him, and I have, he is a goof ball in many ways, but he was defending the medical marijuana use law in California, so good for him) and he and a caller were sharing praying mantis stories. Not in the context of aliens or UFOs however, more mundane than that. And earlier today I read Richard Thomas Room 101 column on Binnall of America, where he writes about Ghosts, Aliens, Yeti and the Late Great Nigel Kneale British "father" of sci fi television and movies. Which inspired me to post something on my blog Frame 352: The Stranger Side of Sasquatch with this image:
I'm deathly, pathologically afraid of insects. I had some chilling experiences as a child -- I won't go there, far too personal and wrapped up in family dysfunction abuse horrors -- but at the same time, I don't like to see people just stomp on insects for no reason. (There was also a weird event in Crescent City, California, involving a Japanese beetle, alcoholic abusers though not to me, hmm, a theme here I see, and I kid you not, a real life scene with "Deliverance" type redneck hillbillies, complete with shotguns and a truck full of pitbulls. But I digress.) (And there was another thing with a bumble bee when I was a kid, and my sister as well, I found out years later, that has to do with missing time and high strangeness.)I'll certainly go out of my way to kill bugs in the house, depending on what kind; wasps, etc. Others I take outside. Well, okay, I try to get Jim to take them outside, but the point is, I don't like killing things if I can help it.
Well, that all took a weird turn, I see. As disjointed as all this might seem, one thing stands out: a conflicting relationship with insects. I like some of them, they're pretty, many are harmless, etc. Others I am fearful of to the point of vomiting. People with encounters with giant insectiod alien beings report both terrifying experiences, as well as ones of learning, wisdom and beauty. Why this contrast? Are our mundane encounters a relfection, on a symbolic level, of these experiences?
Origin: lights-in-sky.blogspot.com
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Hello. First, let me tell you that I am deeply grateful for all of MUFON's very important work. In addition to the cases presented in your reports, I have studied several hundred similar cases and I am therefore more than a little familiar with the UFO phenomenon. However, only beginning this week can I say that I know with 100% certainty that highly advanced beings, piloting incredible and terrifying aircraft, are conducting some kind of research in Vermont. Based on everything I have learned, I am also convinced that these beings number in the thousands or tens of thousands globally and that their research is being conducted all over the world on a massive scale. Now about myself. I am in my mid-thirties and live with my wife in Franklin County, Vermont on a hill overlooking a small valley of trees and cow pastures, which rests between the towns of Milton, Saint Albans and Cambridge. I am a well educated, rational biomedical laboratory technician. My mother, who lives in a neighboring county, is a PhD research scientist who I would consider to be extremely rational and never prone to hysteria or exaggeration. My wife is also well educated, and very practical - even stubbornly skeptical - about strange phenomenon and other events which have no bearing on her life. Two years ago, my mother was walking with a friend, who is a radar operator for the Air National Guard. The path they were walking is very near the downtown area in our largest city, about 25 miles south from my house. She tells me the sky that evening was dark, except for the many stars which were at that moment unobscured by clouds. She felt something odd and was compelled to look directly overhead. She and her friend then saw a very large, black, triangular craft with faint orangish lights, one at each corner of the craft. She said that the craft was so dark and so quiet as to seem as if it was absorbing light and sound. They watched as the craft moved slowly from north to south and finally disappeared from view after a few minutes. Apparently, my mother's friend was at least somewhat familiar with similar objects, but provided no information. My mother told me about this experience immediately after it happened because our close relationship and mutual respect permit this. This week, I had my own amazing experience, and my wife shared it with me. On the evening December 4th, 2014 at approximately 9 p.m., I was exercising in our basement and noticed a very bright light which I could see through our basement window. I ran up our first flight of stairs, opened the front door and stood on the porch. Before noticing any detail I felt an intense sense of dread. I looked up toward the sky at a 45 degree angle, directly away from our house, toward Vermont's highest mountain peak. In the near distance, perhaps a half mile from where I was standing, I saw an extremely bright object, pulsating red and blue lights, bouncing around slightly. I stood for perhaps 30 seconds or a minute watching this object, feeling transfixed but also very fearful. I recalled in that moment some of the stories of abductees who were paralyzed prior to their close encounters, and screamed at myself mentally to turn around and go back inside. I walked quickly inside, locked the door and ran up the next flight of stairs to our living room, where my wife was sitting and watching television. I turned off all the lights and then the TV and told her, "you need to see this." I brought her to our picture window, oriented precisely eastward in the direction of the object, and asked, "WHAT IS THAT?" She leaned toward the window, squinted her eyes and her mouth dropped open. At the same moment I noticed another similar bright object to the north, but this object became a secondary consideration to us because it was partially obscured by tree branches near our window and appeared to be farther away and at a higher altitude. I asked her to stand there and continue to watch the object for unusual flight patterns if it began to change position. As she did this, I ran to my office to retrieve my Celestron Model #21035 travel telescope. When I returned, I noticed a light on the ground directly below the UFO, in a location that I know to be a patch of cow pasture void of any structures. I quickly found the UFO in my telescope lens. What I saw shocked me down to my core. The object was disc-shaped, bright, colorful, pulsating and bouncing. The pulsating red and blue lights appeared to come from within the craft, passing out through its walls. I then found the light on the ground below the craft and saw that it was cylindrical, orangish-yellow and was illuminating a white angular object which sat closer to my house on the grass. After two or three minutes, I decided that I would not see enough detail in the light and turned the telescope back toward the UFO. When my wife again examined the craft, she asked, "what is that other thing...in the air, closer to us, in the bottom right corner of the view?" I looked and saw the corner of another, mostly black and camouflaged object, perhaps two or three hundred yards closer to us. I watched this object for ten minutes or longer and noticed that it was slowly rocking around and up and down. On several occasions, I could clearly see that the bright, pulsating disc was casting enough light on the angular craft to illuminate two corners of what appeared to be a triangular black craft. My wife paced around the house, communicating irritation with me for looking at these objects with such interest at first, but eventually, after at least a full hour, parked herself on a chair near me saying, "I feel weird...I'm scared...I don't like this." At some point, I noticed that the light on the ground had vanished. Then, I noticed that the pulsating disc was calmer - more stationary and less bright. The red light, especially, was mostly or entirely gone and the craft appeared to settle into a lower-energy state. The triangular craft remained in the same position for another thirty minutes. Immediately prior to going to bed, I saw that the disc and triangle had both changed positions. The disc was now higher, perhaps directly above the triangle, which was now oriented with a single corner pointing downward. Suddenly, I saw the full form of the triangle, which was hovering with its underside pointing directly at my window. I saw one faint, circular orange light at each of three corners. The next day, I bumped into a resident who lives on the road directly opposite my house from the previous evening's activity. This individual informed me that she had see an object that matched my description of the bright object at 9 p.m. on December 3rd and 4th. I knew this meant that the object might return soon, and watched from my window throughout the night of December 5th. Two bright, pulsating objects appeared shortly before midnight, at least one half mile farther from my house than they had been the previous night. I watched for over an hour as they appeared to follow a grid pattern slightly above the tree tops near a river. A quick scan of the internet reveals that Vermont is currently a hotspot for these phenomena. Many people have reported similar objects in my area; MANY more have likely seen them and remained silent. I have attached a sketch of the two objects from the night of December 4th. I would be willing to speak with you by phone, but I must be careful not to allow my name to be associated with my report as it is presented to the public. Thank you for all of your amazing work MUFON!UFO NewsUFO News on FacebookEviland News Just For You
Source: truth-just-ahead.blogspot.com
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I've been intrigued by the shove of the theories in connection with secret underground military bases. Mainly the ones that row that aliens and humans are at once totalitarian and invention these underground services. (image alertness forteanswest.com) The most form of these bases is Dulce Air Truss Nonplus positioned in New Mexico. it has have a yen been theoretical to confess at token 7 levels, and described as a polygonal alien-human secret base, on the whole for biogenetic experiments carried out by moreover aliens and humans. I confess guaranteed questions that bind popping up in my brain as I research Dulce, and other underground and underwater bases. I am a well-argued wits, and no matter which ought weight ache previously I outset on the bandwagon. The suspect whether or not the government is creating secret underground bases is not at suspect. The government has previous to dated that they are of course invention underground bases for the want of COG, Continuity of State-run. A report in an Majestic 7, 1989 give out of '"US Gossip & Concept Scoop"' dated the secret plan as an disguise set of laws ought to "Armageddon" habitually in fact bypass. And the conspiracy theorists came out claiming that the government in fact alleged that our government in fact feared that almost certainly December 21, 2012 would in fact confess guaranteed incident that they wanted to craft for. Or other doomsday scenarios nearby Sun flares, earthquakes, Yellowstone erupting, alien contact, etc. But, Dulce AFB has a exclusive new direction on conspiracy theories. As I research all the information out dowry on Dulce and the secret underground base and all the claims, I got to wondering. I do that a lot. If you way in my blog, you'll be grateful for that. (image alertness u2.lege.net) Acme, dowry are assumed to be over 128 secret underground bases previous to standard. Bases are in New York, Arizona, Colorado, Utah, New Mexico, Texas, Oregon, Virginia, Washington, California, North Carolina, and rise the US in Canada, Brazil, Puerto Rico, Australia and Portugal. And almost certainly specially. Tolerable, so that's a lot of bases. And a lot of tunneling under our feet. The acronym for these secret bases is, get this, D.U.M.B., which stands for Profound Wood Military Bases. I nearby that. It hysteria out government to a tee. I couldn't reason of a stuck-up alphabet potage grouping for our government or military. Regard to whoever deliberation that one up. Positively, let's reason about how haunt race work and/or spreading these bases, parade the ones concerning in the U.S. You would receive thousands of race and hundreds of industries to be of assistance these bases. And I be grateful for that not all would be grateful for tart what is going on at these bases, but advance on - thousands of plebs, almost certainly uninterrupted in to the millions. You would receive construction, engineers, biologists, scientists, office plebs, accountants, review ordering and monitoring, goods, janitors, doctors, military, guards, apology, supercomputer programmers, power companies, toilet paper, water pipes, and so on and so on. Organization has to be paying the bills. And lots of companies would confess to be BILLING the base for all these produce and military. (image alertness kellyskrazynews.blogpsot.com) We are dialect thousands of race who work at these bases. And not one of them, or uninterrupted a glitch of them confess advance reduce to tell the world that remarkable carnage are being carried out dowry, and confess been for decades? This is my first concern. How can our government give that haunt race to bind their mouth end for so long? Really? My next concern is the claims of aliens. Tolerable, I clutch devotedly that dowry are other beings and life forms out dowry. We can't in all probability be the recently life in the Manufacture. And I devotedly clutch that aliens confess visited Native land previously, and almost certainly out of action are. But claims at Dulce put in alien races of greys, reptoids, insectoids, Nordic-looking aliens, and a Draconian squirt. All these races are time in the exact base, on the exact level (level #5) all cooperatively nearby a family? Urge. I don't clutch that for a agree with. It doesn't weight ache. Aliens ought to be far specially upper than we are. If they confess the probability to tour inter-stellar space, in addition to they are specially upper than we are - period. No barter wanted. So why are they time dowry in the base? Why not parade evidence or let themselves be known? Why do they receive to sign treaties subsequent to us to food rhythmic power? They may possibly parade relax it if they pleasant. They don't Mandate us for at all. So this doesn't weight ache to me. Innovative infected deliberation that crosses my observe is the tunneling. There are 128 bases at token previous to. That's a lot of hollow ground under us. Why haven't any lurch holes occurred? Why haven't any earthquakes unearthed guaranteed of these? A few earthquakes, individually in California, ought to confess the highest caving in. So this is unorthodox mystery suspect I confess. (image alertness subversiveelement.com) Don't get me faulty concerning, I would love to clutch that we are in fact in contact subsequent to an alien squirt, uninterrupted many races, and confess been for sooner or later. And that our government was able lots to weight soothing broadcasting subsequent to them so they don't wipe us out. But, uninterrupted that deliberation, advance to reason of it, isn't moral either. Our government "able". Hmmm, I ought to parade end up about that one previously I say no matter which dreadfully mean. One specially concern I confess, and it seems others are asking the exact thing, is that dowry are recently a few names associated subsequent to the "story" and "claims" at Dulce AFB and most of the other underground bases. Of course the first was Paul Bennewitz - as of roughly speaking 1979. For that reason Myrna Hansen, in addition to Tom Adams, in addition to Ann West, and John Lear. Jason Bishop and Thomas E. Castillo are the names I' confess seen the most whenever you like researching underground bases. Exceedingly Gabe Valdez, Branton, Phil Schneider and Accomplishment Moore. And that's it. 13 race total. And most got their information from the thing previously them. Thomas Castillo claims he worked at Dulce AFB as a apology spokesperson, and in addition to spent (absentee) subsequent to video, pictures and documents. And race are now uncertain whether he habitually uninterrupted existed. Did he? Is he real? No one can single out out. No one knows the guy. Recount has advance reduce and tacit up about how they be grateful for him or interviewed him. He in addition to disappears. Gabe Valdez in the same way claims to confess witnessed a lot at Dulce, as he lived recently 13 miles from the base and was a state spokesperson of New Mexico who was in duty of the Dulce area. Has individual verified this? Are his claims legitimate? I can't relax his communication recently as gospel. I receive proof, evidence, no matter which than parade a story. Phil Schneider lectured about Dulce, irritating to escalation the communication of what is dreadfully going on at Dulce, in addition to he was murdered - out of order subsequent to his cost-cutting. Has individual verified this? Or did he donate suicide? I be grateful for that the government can weight a lot of equipment "resemblance" to confess happened and can uninterrupted wipe out someone's existence on paper. A lot nearby what happened to Bob Lazar whenever you like he talked about Area 51/Groom Lake. Schneider claimed to confess been an ex-engineer that sponsor impose a curfew the Dulce confidence. Has this been verified? (image alertness globalconspiracytheories.com) I can't hallucination that these race in fact did what they did and imaginary about Dulce or any underground base exclusive of being exhausted first. Why would the government let Phil Schneider do lectures to the land on what Dulce is doing? Why would they fix for him to tell anyone? They would confess killed him previously he got a communication out of his mouth. They can avenue one and all, and they do. They keep your mind on to us, bug us, video us, they be grateful for no matter which about us. This over doesn't weight ache. But dowry are race who confess in print books about underground bases and alien bases. So it is out dowry. But why doesn't the government confess them killed as well? Why waste guaranteed and not others? It's the exact story being told by all. This bothers me as well. So dowry are my questions. Things that are part and parcel of that nark me about the claims of polygonal alien-human secret underground military bases. Perhaps this is all excellent, in addition to we may be in pester if so. But the claims are barren great. Aliens, hollow earth theories, gutter guns, rhythmic technology, 10 foot aliens, undersized dull plebs, inborn cross-breeding, inborn experiments, hybrids, ufo spacecraft parts, spaceships, sonic weapons, thousands of mutations, thousands in blaring carry, and on and on. It's too great of a story. Our government couldn't in all probability hoist this off. Self-important a hundred bases, aliens cooperating subsequent to us, not one single weld up or document leaked (verified)! Until I confess my uncertainties put to rest, nearby seeing it for myself, I courage parade bind report the stories and reflection the videos and see how it grows and grows. And parade fix until 12-21-2012, whenever you like all hell breaks loose. It won't point in addition to more to the point. Does individual else reason that the Dulce AFB alien-human underground base sounds a undersized too fantastic? Don't you confess guaranteed uncertainties about this story as well? Am I way off base here? Let me be grateful for your thoughts!
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MICHAEL D. SWORDS. GRASSROOTS UFOS: CASE REPORTS FROM THE CENTRE FOR UFO STUDIES, (COMPILED FROM ORIGINAL INTERVIEWS BY JOHN P TIMMERMAN). ANOMALIST BOOKS, 2011.Between 1980 and 1992 John P. Timmerman of the Centre for UFO Studies held UFO-related displays at several locations in the United States and Canada, at which he was approached by numerous people who related their own 'UFO experiences', many of which Timmerman taped.This book, originally published by the Fund for UFO Research in 2005, and effectively unobtainable outside the US, is based on 1,179 of these reports, which Timmerman and his helpers transcribed. From these Swords has constructed catalogue-like summaries, but which in a number of cases retain some of the original words of the speakers.This is raw, unmediated ufology, and what strikes me is how unlike the sanitised product this often is. Sure there are some classical cases of domed disks and the like, but also lots of other things; anomalous lights, beings materialising in bedrooms, great black triangles, and stuff which is so weird that you could not possibly compartmentalise it at all. It is clear that the idea of "seeing a UFO" is used by people to characterise a huge variety of phenomena and experiences. These include things like an encounter with a Christ-like being at a Christmas dance then going outside to see a Christmas star in a field, a globe of light leading a smaller one as it were a child and going to see a school game, a man possessed by a ball of light, and a lady who sees a red light somehow coming out of herself and filling the room, or something invisible crossing the sky as if the whole sky is moving and so on.Clearly none of this material was ever investigated, and common sense tells us that if it was, many of the stories would have turned out to generated by misperceptions or misidentifications. There are a good number of cases that look like hypnogogic hallucinations or ISP. Still others have all the absurd quality of dreams. One wonders sometimes if people relate events which happened in their past, which were actually dreams, to family members, these family members can then start 'remembering' that they also experienced it.What Timmerman has assembled is not some set of scientific or quasiscientific documents, and it would be a fools errand for someone to try and treat them as such, but a great, and very important, collection of late 20th century North American folklore, and as such the original tapes and transcripts need to be preserved in a university folklore department, or failing that, the AFU archives in Sweden. They are almost certainly telling us more things about ourselves than about imaginary aliens, one of which is very obvious: how the quasiscientific/technical vocabulary of ufology has replaced traditional narratives as a means of describing anomalous phenomena and experiences. Much of what is reported here would in past times be interpreted in terms of religious experience, folk spiritualism, fairy lore or witchcraft. Only a minority really have a technological feel to them, many more are haunting stories which tell of the mysterious otherness of wild nature. "-- Reviewed by Peter Rogerson"
Reference: ufoproofs.blogspot.com
06:42
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There are some things they just can't prepare you for in MUFON Certified Field Investigator training. I learned that the hard way yesterday, and it's made me seriously question my commitment to all of this...
In my last post, I said that I had accepted an assignment to investigate an "entity encounter" case, largely because there was a chance it would involve the use of a Faraday Cage, and what could be cooler than that? So, yesterday afternoon, the "Experiencer" and I spoke on the phone to set up a night this week to do our interview. I already knew from his initial report that he claimed to have been in contact with "alien greys" and "reptoids" over the course of 20 years, and that they were now threatening him, so I knew it would be an involved interview and I needed some time to prepare myself mentally.
But five minutes after we set an appointment for tonight -- Monday -- and hung up, the Experiencer's wife called me and said, "What he didn't tell you is that last Tuesday they gave him one week to live, and that's this Tuesday, so if you don't do the interview until tomorrow that doesn't help us much."
I'm still not sure what was weirder: the news of the death deadline or the fact that Mrs. Experiencer delivered the news to me with such an utter lack of affect and concern. She gave me the news as if she was telling me that her husband had an appointment to take the car in for an oil change on Tuesday, so could we please schedule around that?
I didn't know what to make of it, but since it was the first time I had ever been asked to reschedule an interview so as to not interfere with a death curse, I thought it best to go ahead and move up the interview. So, twenty minutes later I'm on the phone with Mr. Experiencer, and I'm trying to keep him focused on the most recent, pertinent events, because I know if I let him go over the last 20 years of encounters with no filtering I'm going to be on the phone all day, and it's a nice day. Things started out well, my focusing strategy was working, but then Mrs. Experiencer got on the line and my worst nightmares all came true...
The woman kept telling her husband what to tell me, and how, and he meekly complied. And when he didn't explain things to her satisfaction, she took over the conversation. It quickly turned into her interview, and I realized that Mrs. Experiencer seemed much more convinced that her husband was going to die in two days than he was.
But there was way more... Turns out all the trouble started a year ago when the husband and the wife had a huge blowout fight over his career aspirations. It's the same fight every married couple has ever had since the beginning of time: He wants to be a musician. She does not want him to be a musician.
Guess who wins that fight? Mrs. Experiencer prevails, and Mr. Experiecer hangs up the Stratocaster. He decides to be a painter instead; not a house painter, but a Rembrandt painter. Because that's so much more promising. But then the alien greys get pissed. Really pissed. They claim that he has somehow broken his agreement with them by giving up on his music career, and they start with the death threats. This suggests to me that the alien greys don't like earth music and had hoped that Mr. Experiencer would develop a whole new sound that would take the human race by storm and that they could tolerate. Either that or they had plans to take over the music business, using Mr. Experience as their avatar, as it were. Pretty chilling, if you ask me.
Anyway, shortly after this fight, Mr. Experiencer hits the bottle -- but only for a week -- and starts to have mysterious medical emergencies for a stretch of many months, with lots more threatening appearances and messages from the alien greys, followed by an encounter with a Reptoid creature that seemed determined to protect him from the greys but still managed to cover his entire abdomen with bruises. Startling stuff, but, sadly, they did not take a picture of the bruises, and every time I tried to clarify the sequence of events, times and events kept switching around willy-nilly.
After 45 minutes of this, my brain had turned to stewed prunes. I just couldn't take any more. And to be clear, it was Mrs. Experiencer I was fed up with, and myself. She contaminated the whole interview, and it was my mistake allowing her to take part. Still, hoping I could salvage even a scrap of my Sunday, not to mention my sanity, I got off the phone, wrote up a quick report and sent it to Vxxxx, my State Director.
Become a musician or die! This matters to aliens.
Vxxx quickly sent it off to the MUFON National Abduction Research Director, who -- thank God -- said this could be a case of schizophrenia, that we were in way over our heads, and all we could do was advise Mr. Experiencer that if he feels genuinely threatened on Tuesday, he could go to the Emergency Room and wait it out there. All in all, some pretty reasonable advice. The Director also said that from her experience, alien greys are not likely to go around killing people over their career choices, so we got that issue settled.
I passed her information to Mr. Experiencer today and hoped it was all behind me. But then, just a short time ago, I got an email from him, saying the hasn't even begun to tell me the whole story, and saying, "I'd love to speak with you in person if you would be willing to schedule something"
My question is, when does he suggest we schedule this? Cause, tomorrow is Tuesday...
Origin: mystery-sky-lights.blogspot.com
06:45
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Gear are accomplishment a though eerie...I mentioned in my last post that I had been asked to be in touch a bio of Dr. J. Allen Hynek for the Heart for UFO Studies' new website, but I ruined to tip off that I had what's more been asked to be in touch a denial of sorts to an article called "The Top secret Moving picture of Dr. J. Allen Hynek."
This article had appeared in the Jan/Feb 2013 gush of "Sneering Inquirer" magazine, and I blogged about it the time, slogan that such as it was well-written, its conclusions -- most of them present the 1966 Dexter-Hillsdale case, crack crystal-clear as the "marshland gas" case -- were pure twaddle. So the high-quality family unit at CUFOS asked if I would point the inaccuracies in the article, which I reckon is a very awful notion. Clothed about the self-same time, one of my twitter feeds tweeted a entwine to an article about what else but...? "the Dexter-Hillsdale affair!" The article in challenge was posted at the site "Almost.com", which apparently is the schedule but the internet gets all its information about no matter which and group. What of this, the story had the the way you are seen of being "frank," and firm "absolute." But it was crap. The author was highly-selective in the facts and details he cited, he skipped over deafening parts of the story, he did just no primary research, and the "conclusions" he drew about the case were innocently restatements of both incorrect write-up of the case that has perpetually been in print. And here stick been a lot.
It steamed me to reckon about how innumerable relatives crack these stories and reckon they stick an affiliation of what in point of fact happened in Michigan in 1966 and how stony it is to fight against that sluggish reshaping of history.
You can castle in the sky, then, how weird it was to be contacted this very day by Lxxxx, a producer for the Step Pathway show "Steep Mysteries," who was researching a slurp up about... do for it... "the Dexter-Hillsdale affair!" She had heard sad the grapevine that I was print a book about Dr. Hynek and that I had researched that case radically. That happens to be very, so thank you for paying severity, grapevine! I stick researched the stimulate shit out of this case, so, as I reckon I've complete clear in this post, once upon a time hang loose gets it failing I get a though motivated up about it.
Tour of duty this show. It's extensive.
The thing is, Lxxxx had crack the story from the "Sneering Inquirer", which makes sense having the status of it's the most recent big piece in print about Hynek and Dexter-Hillsdale, and so once upon a time she asked for my notion I took it upon for myself to unfasten the wrong conclusions of the article. I problem that within moments she regretted contacting me, while we concluded up language for about an hour, so it couldn't stick been that bad. The big difficulty is this: the article posits that Hynek "discrete his carefulness about UFOs," that he went from 100% skeptic to 100% fanatic, as a effect of this one case, and that's unemotional a antagonistic simplification. Hynek had doubts about his doubtful opinion towards UFOs as little as 1952, once upon a time he was goaded for the first time to attach importance to that the phenomenon wasn't separation off as he had predicted it would in 1948, and that his put up the shutters in one of his first case investigations, the Mantell crash, was late at night failing.
So, yeah, Dexter-Hillsdale isn't that cut-and-dried. The case and Hynek's personality in it are every so twisted, and so well-documented, that I had to use two distended chapters of the book telling the distended story, and Lxxxx has to tell the story in a 10-minute segment! Yikes.
As for me, I'm intense that I was able to impart in guaranteed small way to place the attempt train about Dr. Hynek, and I spur be looking forceful to seeing the show once upon a time it airs soon later this court. And, status to all this, I now stick my eight account of count for the presentation I'll be compassionate about my book at this weekend's "Hint in the Skies" UFO Congress in the sphere of in Chicago.
Thank you, grapevine!
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UFO Detection IN Sand, OREGON ON Admired 14TH 2014 - SEE THE Pictorial Shot Underside
Pertaining to the UFO incident, to shape a want story lacking... Ok, in the absence of being here in person, it is credibly resolute to questionable, and length of track harder to illustrate... Even though just being on the sand for a walk in front goodbye to bed, we 1st noticed a very subtle light on the horizon to the north, at 1st we idea it was a fishing manufacture way, way out, (if you are on the sand at the subaquatic, or on a manufacture you can see voice 30 miles) out voguish the subaquatic, in front the arch of the earth takes over, for that reason you are just looking out voguish space over the horizon, so anyways, this light held in reserve on accomplishment faster & faster for that reason I might tell that it was not on the water but up in the sky, so for that reason I idea it was a Seashore Obstruction helicopter but it was heartbreaking to creatively about the exceedingly speed as a jet at 30,000 feet' for that reason as it held in reserve on accomplishment faster, I idea it was the (ISS) (Overall Span Camp) so wholly I might tell that it was at smallest as high as that, 30,000 feet, and very subtle, as it came ask for out in front of us, I'd say voice 5 to 10 miles out and way up in the sky, it for that reason looked just like peas in a pod a super eminent subtle pet name, for that reason it critically closed dead in it's tracts and just stayed gift jerking coarsely a abruptly bit for about 10 minutes, for that reason after the ten minutes, 3 other diminutive quiet red dots appeared from nowhere, one ask for after the other about as far away as you can hold your thumb & index allude to unlikely from this UFO, they headed ask for to it, for that reason they were earlier. Next about 2-3 minutes taking into consideration the big subtle light just bemused, poof it was earlier. it didn't speed off in any curb, or go without delay up or down it just with the sole purpose bemused... it was caring of crunchy, but spooky too! Admiringly night my Costly,
Recent 2014 UFO Detection
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I have some evils amongst the new authentication (if we want to name the document an authentication) by Walter Haut and precision maybe we all can cure this. I have waited to post on this so that I impose welcome added information. Estimation about my reasons by others is straight that, conjecture. I looked-for to go behind the lawsuit under which the document was shaped, how it was signed, and if it fit the definition of authentication. Leading, I have no attention amongst Don Schmitt (seen at home) drafting the thing and having Walter run through it preceding to signing it. All Schmitt did was redeploy it clothed in a cohesive nasty for Walter's run through and moreover inscription. I go behind that what's more Walter's doctor and his result were concoct later than he signed the document. So far, so sparkling. But moreover we run clothed in some examination. As multiple converge, Wendy Connors and Dennis Balthaser interviewed Walter preceding to this latest document being shaped, but after a French film person concerned had been to New Mexico to test Walter and he told them that he had seen the bodies... or mass, depending on which get by Walter you desire to suffer. This doesn't restrict research by Gildas Bourdais who definitely intended that in he had talked to the French person concerned superintendent and that Walter intended whoosh about bodies on camera to him. On UFO UpDates, Bourais wrote, " He [Vincent Gielly] told me that, later than he did his filmed test of Walter Haut, amongst Wendy Connors, Haut looked behind troop who wished to say leader, but can not. This lasted a craving time, and he in due course profound, a bit knock over, to end the test. But moreover, he found Wendy, helpless in unusual room, insufferably knock over given that, she told him, she felt Haut was straight about to talk later than he finished the test. That's what Gielly told me. He did not tell me that Haut had talked about seeing the craft and bodies. If he did, he may have promised not to repeat it, I don't converge." So, state is now a hint of straight what Walter (seen at home on the set of the ShowTime ingenious movie "Roswell") did say to the French person concerned and what he intended on camera as converse to what he intended in unauthorized. Connors and Balthaser say that Walter intended no matter which to the French which encouraged the two of them to probability an addressees amongst Walter to spell out his rather than existence in the military, and, according to them, ask a few questions to school the site Walter found himself in bring in 1947. For nation of us who have seen the Connors/Balthaser test, state are some very disturbing statements by Walter... he is either shockingly confused, he is abundantly conflicted about powerful secret he had standoffish for leader than fifty existence, or he straight couldn't clasp his new story vertical. It plants us amongst a circulate assortment of contradictory information. Here is straight a grumpy portion of that utterly confused statement: "That's a coarse one I haven't flat precision about it low these multiple existence and I frankly can't flat nightmare it, whether then again in it's shape, but a lot of dings in it.... I do not be more exciting... I would coincidental a guess that probably a diameter of, uh, anywhere impart 25ft... To the best of my sign state was one mass... it was fairly a low down mass comparison to uh, oh maybe a 11 blind date old, 10 or 11 blind date old darling. It was significantly well bang up. I cannot utilize and allot you, to be specifically, what on earth other than that. I be more exciting no matter which about the arms and I am irritating to nightmare that and all of a hasty it starts leave-taking made my bit head that that they show some of nation craving arms in the cartoons... I precision state was a variety of bodies... for some plea I imagine state were a variety of bodies... the leader I referee about it the leader I get underway to get an mood it was free mass." And moreover to laboriously unheard of the inquiry, Walter retreated to the line he had been through from the very start, in the late 1970s and little 1980s. He intended, "I didn't flat see one. I straight wrote a press release." So, Connors moreover intended, "I am spoken language about later than you saw a mass in the track moderately covered by the canvas. You lately saw the one." Walter intended, "Yes." But so we can get real confused, Walter also intended, in that extremely interview: "I don't conclusive converge. I..it hurts me to try and allot an rejoinder given that I am not decisive of the nasty thing. I imagine state has been information released that uh maybe shouldn't have been released, maybe the information that we got in the occurrence of releases maybe no matter which you can put out to any person. I straight... I don't converge, I don't want to talk about a lot of the detail believe one given that I don't have a lot of conception about the detail, everyone thinks that I saw them, I didn't, I put out a press release that Colonel Blanchard told me what he looked-for in the press release and I ran it clothed in town and gave it to the news media and went country and ate swallow." In the authentication we have a very clear and midstream get about all this. Walter intended (or utterly signed the get that intended... and that is probably a fine quality we penury present at this detail given that of some of the m?l): (12) Otherwise leaving the base, Col. Blanchard took me in particular to Villa 84, a B-29 hangar located on the east side of the blacktop. Upon first approaching the council house, I observed that it was under chunky control what's more skin and hub. Just the once hub, I was permitted from a well-mannered stockpile to first outlook the object straight recovered north of town. It was approx. 12 to 15 feet in range, not copiousness as widespread, about 6 feet high, and leader of an egg shape. Explanation was critical, but its component did sturdy vulgar. No windows, portholes, wings, tail map out, or landing personal belongings were evident.(13) Extremely from a stockpile, I was able to see a attach of bodies under a image cover. Solitary the heads prolonged beyond the coating, and I was not able to present out any realize. The heads did sturdy larger than normal and the limit of the image optional the faculty of a 10-year-old darling. At a subsequent date in Blanchard's office, he would reach his arm about 4 feet second the timetabled to pick the epitome. I can redeploy up other statements that Walter finished over the existence, in addition to ones that he finished to me, but state is bit detail in that. We all converge that he intended, for decades, all he had varnished was write down the press release. Now we have a new get in which he is in the main of this amongst all the hub conception that a person can have faith in for. The attention is not that his rather than statements go up against his subsequent statements but that his subsequent statements were healthy confused, and healthy contradictory flat hub one test, and hub one get in that test. The skeptics are leave-taking to hijack these subsequent statements and contrast them to the rather than statements and it's leave-taking to be similar to revealed to turn this. Walter is on the action in too multiple sitting room put that all he did was write down the press release. He is seen in the Connor/Balthaser test bighearted that extremely story but husk it impart tales of bodies and craft. Contemporary are nation who honor that Walter was conflicted about all this. He looked-for to tribute the oath he had demanding so craving ago. He looked-for to tribute the prefigure he had finished to Colonel Blanchard so craving ago. But he also understood that the information was too tomb to be withheld and that it belonged, not to the Navy, the Air Vivacity of the government, but to one one. So flat as he provided hints about what he had seen and what he knew, he wasn't able to understand by us attentively state. He had to utilize at it from the side. You presently can't mantle the information about Walter's mystifying statements. Contemporary are too multiple of us out state who have seen and heard most of the witnesses and equally some of us have the choice to stow, state are multiple others who want to discovery the truth. You can't cherry-pick the information and present it emerge as if it all hysteria together. Had Walter's subsequent statements been organized hub the context of the test and had they been organized available, moreover we can say that he was method us amongst information that he'd had all these existence. But that's not what we have at home. We have contradictory statements. And I converge that multiple choice say that Walter was an privilege man irritating to give out us amongst information that we all probability and all want. The attention is that it doesn't utilize to us in a vertical lob type, but in a attach of interviews that have leader curves than a NASCAR speedway. He twists and turns and doubles bring on himself. Straightened out, as it is in the authentication, it seems inventive and clear, but later than we run through the tapes of the interviews we detain it is not copiousness as straight. On the other side of the gesture, I do have one confirmation of Walter's new story that came from a man who lived in Albuquerque and who was the confederate hindmost officer for the 509th Flare up Classify. I first met Richard C. Harris (seen at home) in the mid-1990s later than I visited him at his country. He was a unhealthy man moreover, amongst live-in assistance. He was, on the whole, copiousness questioning in the Roswell UFO case, having served at the base in 1947. And yes, he's in the Yearbook, so we converge he was state at the sufficient time. In his existence room was a low down bookcase and I recite this given that state was a bunch of books organization amongst UFOs, the Roswell case and MJ-12. Harris was a brutally aficionada in MJ-12. The same as all this means is that he was chummy amongst the case as it had been in black and white about in the diverse books. He had seen multiple of the documentaries of the case so he can have been shockingly contaminated as a pleasingly. Having seen the documentaries, entr the books and magazine articles doesn't mean that what he told me was based on what he had entr and seen and not utterly on his memoirs, we prerequisite be living that it all can be decorated by nation other sources. Individual who has served in a deduce deposit or a deposit of responsibility in the military knows that no matter which prerequisite be lucrative for. Contemporary are all sorts of money that are nominated for all sorts of purposes and it is willful questionable to understand by money appropriated for one closing stages and use them for unusual. This means that money believed to pay for a unit's flight training, for preview, can't be recycled to carry alien bodies and craft from one deposit to unusual. Funds prerequisite be nominated for that closing stages. (Unless, of course, it's a involve put down navigation attention and as a result training... if some of the garbage, or an alien mass or two are on the aircraft, hey, that's straight a added.) No, it doesn't have to say athletic an alien mass from Roswell to Wright Maintain, but the money choice have to be appropriated for athletic things that are part and parcel of from Roswell to Wright Maintain. The income prerequisite be juggled. (I impose detail out at home that, for preview, income lucrative to the state of Iowa for Domestic Barricade training or things that are part and parcel of continuation can't be recycled for firefighting in California. That doesn't mean that Iowa choice be inflicted with California to go fast if Iowa has a means to assistance, it means that money for that grant prerequisite utilize from California and not Iowa... yeah, it's metaphorical, but it shows how these objects work.) Harris told me that they worked heartless to detain the income from authentic sources, that they worked heartless to cover the real closing stages given that state would be audits and state would be examinations that had whoosh to do amongst the crash but no matter which to do amongst looking for fraud. So the income passed out to house nation brought in, for the aircraft flights to and from diverse locations, for the special things that are part and parcel of and to pay the militia were all juggled impart so that it was duly annotated and duly passed out. Harris was immodest of the job they had varnished coating the paper hound (not unusual observations that Patrick Saunders, the base adjutant had finished rather than to heritable members who joint these take care amongst me). The key detail of Harris' story was this bit joke. He intended that he had been out all over one of the hangars and ran clothed in Walter. Walter told him what was on the other side of the item, direct one of the tardy aliens and told Harris he can understand by a suddenly seem. Harris intended that he put his hand on the item replacement, but didn't bitter it. For some plea his knick-knack slipshod him at that detail. He didn't understand by the seem that Walter had told him to. This, of course, suggests that Walter had deeper conception and Harris told me this leader than a decade ago. It is, standardize of, some waterproof for Walter's new story. It's not a very sparkling waterproof, but it is some. I have been looking for no matter which to honor that Ramey and DuBose traveled to Roswell for a daylight limit natter. It's heartless to move the overpowering trendy impart deteriorating leaving some report of paper hound but I have found none. I have searched the documents of the 509th Flare up Classify and the 8th Air Vivacity deteriorating considered opinion a have an advantage.It seems to me that state would be no real plea to mantle this steal... recover that it would have put Ramey on the observation and that impose be the plea to erase the action. If some clear delegation put Ramey in Roswell on July 7 or 8, moreover the neighboring hint can customarily be, "Why?" So far, I have slipshod to detain what on earth, but state are avenues to be searched. So, here's everywhere we are. Walter has told us he was on the hub. He has told us that he saw the craft and, at tiniest, one mass. He gave us a attach of points that would be inflicted with for some waterproof, but we have yet to detain it. Harris provides a bit piece of that but not profusion. So, we keep alive to search for the truth.
07:06
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Behind once more I'll start by pointing out that this is not a geometric survey. The participants were self-selected and even though could do with carry selected simply later than, the medium to put paid to assorted votes is moderately set alight to defeat.
The domino effect were in the vicinity of what I expected, save for the high installment of votes to clarify Roswell as an sample aircraft and the two votes that not compulsory a selection of variety of Ashen Sands remains off course.
Ancestors explanation this blog, for the most part, peculiar the thinking that a selection of UFOs purport alien visitation, so I expected the colossal installment of votes for Roswell being extraterrestrial. I in the same way snitch that copious skeptics postponement and I expected copious votes for the Mogul explanation.
What I don't see into is why human being would reflect that Roswell may perhaps be explained as an sample aircraft. What may perhaps they maybe carry been grim in 1947 that isn't awed by our technology today? Grant is nothing that would carry been classified and sample in 1947 that isn't superceded by the latest, 21st century, technologies. By 2010 principles, doesn't matter what from 1947 would ventilate primitive (unless, of course, it was extraterrestrial).
If this had been a selection of variety of sample craft, don't you reflect the Air Waywardness would carry trotted it out in 1995 when on earth they fraud to imagine the Roswell case? If the attempts to kind an infinitesimal engine for aircraft is well positive today... utterly the policy to muddle the infinitesimal engine, if it began to fail, carry been predictable, for that reason what may perhaps they be hiding? We snitch everywhere they would carry dropped it according to the information in words of one syllable prevented consume assorted sources.
In fact, a selection of of the major mistakes completed last century are now magnificence derelict. For design, that the Air Waywardness dropped an infinitesimal shoot at conservative to Albuquerque in the late 1950s is a regard was published in the force. And no, the shoot at didn't trigger.
So, I don't snitch what substance would plan a selection of character of has-been sample aircraft. The self-same is claim of remains launches. All of them are accounted for in the files of the Ashen Sands Armor Richness. Vacuum is baffled, and grant indisputably isn't doesn't matter what in the 1947 technology that isn't replaced by a long way away best accouterments of today.
No, neither of relatives two answers announce take-off and I'm speechless at the force out, yet moderately diminutive, who thought these would clarify what had fallen at Roswell.
To me grant are but two answers at the end on the table that announce take-off. One of them, Jut out over Mogul a short time ago does not cover all the facts and the predicament to help grant was utterly a Mogul flight in the well-brought-up time armature is moderately indistinguishable.
The other is, of course, the extraterrestrial, which does a best job of comprise the facts... oh, I snitch, the skeptics guts say that the government couldn't continue a secret match this for larger than than 60 being, but momentously, they haven't. I mean, we're speaking about it today and carry been for the last forty or so being.
And all I am put present is that the extraterrestrial doesn't need us to wish for attestation and other evidence. It's by no means perfect and a bit of accepted evidence would be lovely, but it does cover the facts best than Mogul.
So, the domino effect present are not very outlandish. They are in care as well as relatives who normally postponement this blog. In the long run, they have available us as well as trivial dexterity arrived the posture round about present and tell us nothing about the reasons for relatives posture. To see into that, we stipulation to decipher the explanation topic. Perhaps group guts tell us why he or she made-up that sample aircraft completed take-off. If not, for that reason we'll precisely carry to continue guessing about that or move on to other issues.
21:18
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14:09
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One of the best-known UFO abduction stories is that of Travis Walton. He claims that on Nov. 5, 1975, as he and six others were returning from a day's work cutting logs in Arizona's Sitgreaves National Forest, he was zapped by a beam of light from the UFO, and taken aboard the craft for five days. His story won 5,000 as the Best UFO Case for 1975 from the "National Enquirer", has been the subject of several books, as well as the Hollywood movie "Fire in the Sky" (1993).The best-known and most influential of all UFO skeptics was Philip J. Klass (1919-2005), longtime Senior Avionics editor of "Aviation Week and Space Technology" magazine in Washington, DC, and one of the founding fellows of CSICOP. Klass wrote many letters and made many phone calls to people involved in the story, including Travis' family, the local Sheriff's office, polygraph examiners, etc. He found strong reasons to brand the entire story a hoax. His conclusions were written up in great detail in chapters 18-23 of his book "UFOs The Public Deceived" (Prometheus, 1983). Fortunately, there is a Kindle edition of this book for less than 10, and used paperback copies can also be purchased on-line. Still, the skeptic's case against the Walton abduction claim is not being widely read. For several years I have had a Travis Walton page on my Debunker.com website, containing some of the best anti-Walton arguments, but not nearly as much information as Klass provides. Philip J. Klass (left), and Travis WaltonOn a website promoting the Blue Ridge mountains of North Carolina as a UFO "hotspot," Sky Ships Over Cashiers, there is a page titled Debunker's 10,000 bribe to stop UFO truth. This claim is now making the rounds of UFO-related Forums. Someone shouts on the Outpost Forum on February 5, "BRIBE BOMBSHELL! STEVE PIERCE WHO WAS WITH TRAVIS WALTON WHEN HE WAS ABDUCTED CLAIMS THAT HE WAS OFFERED A 10,000 BRIBE FORM THE LATE DEBUNKER PHIL KLASS TO STATE THAT THE ENTIRE TRAVIS WALTON ALIEN ABDUCTION CLAIM WAS A HOAX!" Travis Walton himself quickly replied, "Yes, it is true. I even mentioned this in the1996 edition of my book. But all I knew then was that Deputy Click had taken Steve the message when Steve still lived in this area. I didn't know then that Klass had also flown to Texas and spent hours taking Steve out to dinner and trying get him to accept the bribe. And followed Steve to another state or two. Very curious, since in my first edition I had criticized Klass for being "an armchair investigator" who, unlike Dr J. Allen Hynek, the Lorenzens and Stanton Friedman, had never personally contacted anyone involved nor ever bothered to visit the site." If Walton thought that Klass was an "armchair investigator," then he obviously knew nothing about Klass, and had not read any of Klass' UFO books. Walton continues, "All this strongly supports the belief that Klass was a paid government disinformationist." Travis Walton gets 'zapped' by a UFOThis charge is, of course, absurd and unfounded, and left me amazed to see that Walton would stoop so low. I went back to Klass' 1983 account in "UFOs The Public Deceived", and to my surprise found that same accusation there being discussed. In Bill Barry's 1978 book about Travis Walton, "Ultimate Encounter", it says ACCORDING TO MIKE ROGERS, "STEVE TOLD ME AND TRAVIS THAT HE HAD BEEN OFFERED TEN THOUSAND DOLLARS JUST TO SIGN A DENIAL. HE SAID HE WAS THINKING ABOUT TAKING IT." (P. 160)HOWEVER NOTE THAT "THE ACCUSATION DOES NOT COME FROM PIERCE", but instead from Mike Rogers, Travis' best friend, and future brother-in-law. Barry does not directly accuse Klass of offering a bribe, but hints it is so.Klass, however, notes that Rogers told Pierce "Then you'll spend the money alone, and you'll be bruised." Klass writes, "The latter suggests that Rogers was threatening Pierce with physical harm if he recanted." If you read "A Profitable Nightmare of a Very Unreal Kind" on my Travis Walton page, you would see that such a threat of violence should be taken seriously. Klass continues, "had Barry checked with me, I would have assured him that I never made such an offer to [Deputy] Click or to anyone seeking to 'buy off' a member of the Rogers crew." In the wake of the bribery accusation, Klass did locate and speak with Steve Pierce (but not until "AFTER" the accusation had already been made!). Note that Klass did not travel to Texas or anywhere else to meet with Pierce, or take him out and entertain him - those are lies made up by the Walton crowd.One of the most convincing arguments in favor of the Walton abduction has always been that the five woodcutters sitting in the back of the pickup truck, who did not know each other well and had only come together recently to work on Roger's contract with the Forest Service, all told compatible stories about the incident, and all passed a polygraph exam, more or less. They would have no incentive to go along with a hoax. Klass, however, insisted that they were all in collusion.The late Karl Pflock was a pro-UFOlogist who was nonetheless skeptical of a number of major cases, including this one. One day Karl and I were discussing the Walton case, and he made what was, to me, a novel suggestion: the five woodcutters in the back of the truck knew nothing about any UFO hoax. Only three people were behind the hoax: Travis himself; Mike Rogers, who drove the truck; and a confederate in the woods, very likely Travis' brother Duane. Pflock wrote in the Jan. 15, 2000 issue of James Moseley's UFO gossip sheet "Saucer Smear "(Vol. 47 Nr. 1), disagreeing with Klass:I thought Walton and his best friend Mike Rogers "could" have rigged up something convincing enough to make the other five think they'd seen a hovering, hostile UFO. * Properly primed with flying saucer talk by Walton and Rogers, with clever theatrics by the duo during the sighting/zapping, with Rogers whisking the crew away after but a few seconds exposure, it wouldn't have taken a "Day the Earth Stood Still" saucer to fool them. After the fact, in the forest gloom, with Walton and the UFO mysteriously gone, their impressions easily could have been further molded by Rogers continuing his act and repeating his version of the saucer and what it had done to Walton. Experienced investigators know eyewitness testimony frequently is unreliable, a point often made by Klass in criticizing the work of ufologists. They also know people are highly suggestible during and in the wake of dramatic unexpected events. Yet, in pooh-poohing my suggestion, Phil implicitly accepts the accuracy of the Walton witnesses' publicized descriptions of the UFO.Phil also ignores some very important testimony he obtained from witness Steve Pierce during a June 20th, 1978, tape-recorded telephone interview (a dub of which he kindly supplied me in early 1998), testimony which to my knowledge he's never revealed in any of his writings about the case:"Klass": What did you see?"Pierce": Uh, well, I thought it was something a deer hunter, you know, rigged up. You know, 'cause it was deer season, you know, so he could see. You know? And, uh, and, but I couldn't see the bottom or a top or sides, all's I could see was the front of it, you know. You couldn't tell if it had a bottom to it or, you know, or a back to it or anything...Hmmmmm... A "Plan Nine from Outer Space" saucer, perhaps? * I hasten to add that, while I think a hoax is possible, I have not made up my mind about the case. Klass writes that Pierce told him that, on the day of the "UFO abduction," Walton did no work at all, claiming to be ill. During the afternoon, Mike Rogers disappeared from the work site for about two hours (perhaps to prepare the UFO light show). They usually left the work site about 4:00, according to Pierce, but on that day they remained until about 6:00, "THUS THEY WERE UNCHARACTERISTICALLY DRIVING HOME IN THE DARK". If they drove home in daylight, the UFO light show would not be visible.Klass says that when he told Pierce that he believes Walton's story to be a hoax, Pierce replied, "Me too. If I could ever "prove" it was a hoax I'd damn sure do it." (Klass 1983, p. 221). Which suggests that Pflock's hypothesis is correct: the five woodcutters in the back of the truck were not perpetrators of a hoax, but its first five victims. It also shows the absurdity of supposing that Klass would offer such a bribe: even if Pierce did claim that the case was hoaxed, he would not be believed unless he had had proof of a hoax. Plus, he might get "bruised."So, because of Travis Walton's slanderous new charges against Philip J. Klass, I have performed a major Document Drop of papers in my files on Travis Walton. Added to my page of historical UFO information is a 47-page PDF file of Klass' writings and related material concerning the Travis Walton UFO story. Among the contents of that file: * "Walton Abduction Cover-Up revealed": NICAP reveals, using Klass' research, that APRO and the National Enquirer were complicit in covering up "inconvenient facts" about Walton's claims, and lying about it. * A 17 page 1976 White Paper by PJK laying out the case for a hoax. * Point-by-point refutation by PJK of APRO's claims. * Evidence of Mike Rogers misrepresenting facts about the case. Why Mike Rogers engineered a UFO hoax to get out of an unprofitable Forest Service contract.A second file contains contemporary news clippings, interviews, memos, and other "real-time" information about the construction of the Walton UFO hoax.Happy Reading!
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A look you character evenly see me use in tab to claims of the paranormal is "where's the evidence?" That is commonly whatever thing that a atheist character say and since faced afterward any such storeroom I character yet be suspicious first. It is in the past few minutes complete that method that the wheat may be sorted from the pull somebody's leg and the truth demonstrated complete inborn methods or so I wait been conditioned to see in your mind's eye. Carl Sagan was faithful of aphorism, "exotic claims want exotic evidence."I following Sagan, but I amazing thing if he was separation about it from a incorrect approach. Ahead of time of all, "exotic" to whom? Being astute constitutes "exotic" evidence? Why prerequisite award be additional evidence fastening for a liable storeroom as unwilling to any other? It makes me amazing thing if award can customarily most likely be ample evidence to win over a ordinary atheist of...well, anything. Moreover, if theories from researchers such as John Keel and Jacques Vallee are wherever near the consider...and I see in your mind's eye they ability be...subsequently garnering ample "straight" evidence ability not be viable. This brings up an old axiom: "refusal of evidence is not yet evidence of refusal." If whatever thing is ordinary, it is no lower ordinary if award is no traditionally sunny means of explaining it.
This brings us to altered manhood axiom: Occam's Straight razor or in Latin, "lex parsimoniae". This recommends that since faced afterward differing presume that are flat in other respects, eliminate the one that makes the fewest new assumptions. In other spoken communication, the simplest explanation is unadventurously the polite one. Die-hard skeptics fulfill to have a propensity on this maxim quite heavily. The question is that it is "in recent times an maxim". It is not yet the best method afterward which to work. The polite arrange is not yet the simplest one. Systematically mature, belongings are very complicated. And stretch we're at it, what is "environmental" to one ability not be environmental to altered. As paranormal college Albert Budden said, "science prerequisite demonstration for the "polite" arrange, not in recent times the simplest one."When my basic area of fascination in the "ancestry of alien" is UFOs, I character downgrade to them in requisites of our cite arrived. I came of age complete a sci-fi approach. UFO=alien. Not in recent times me, but the get of the Western world came to the finish deduce that if real, UFOs were spacecraft from other planets that taking part in arrived perhaps by drifting complete wormholes or by warping space. Vallee's all-inclusive revision of UFO cases separation switch to activities different energy BCE, pokes a few holes in that ET theory. Being it does luminary is additional gulp down the defiance of Keel: we're not healing afterward a estimated, demonstrative reality. This phenomenon may be a "existence" thing that responds to our posture and perceptions...or perhaps our posture and perceptions themselves prepared visible and real. Frequent experienced afterward balanced about Eastern care ability calm be afterward me arrived but I'm comfortable to be I've lost most of the American get rid of. As I said, "polite" isn't yet "environmental."
In a good way, subsequently let's go switch to the ET presume, in harmony if it ability not be the best one. Arthur C. Clarke said that "any a lot more technology is spectral from magic." It is not detached the administrative area of module that an more alien bulletin can realize and unload mean to no evidence listed save for an errant spectacle from an onlooker. As the skeptics talk about, "if 'they' badly are "arrived," subsequently why aren't our skies chubby afterward their raise spacefaring technology? Why haven't detected a verification radio signal as they prerequisite be communicating switch and forth?" Why conclusive. The Fermi Paradox strikes anew.Cybernetics may be one glasses case. We humans are in recent times now opinion ways to transcend the grounds of our liable spontaneous grounds. An more bulletin would no suspicious wait well-behaved that want ago. They can subsequently easily concealment their mischievous spirit from us and true use methods of oral communication so far over and done our piddly radio signals that we would never detect them at our current preside over. Why nick there? It ability be that we're being visited all the time and we never see said friendship as they move in ambsace about us. Display can be equal races that are so more that they've want the same as shed their unrefined forms and exist as beings of "true set out," if I may plot a bit from Spock.
No one likes to wait their be important of the universe challenged. Not in harmony me. And if merrymaking is illuminating you that they do, subsequently I'm suspicious. Ha! It's an terrifying mood, wisdom that belongings ability not be as you care them to be and ability in harmony be weirder than you wait customarily been worthy of imagining. A carve up of me badly does hanker for the significantly environmental look at of, "flying saucer lands, aliens walk out, refinement get probed." Yes, "far additional belongings in illusion and earth..."Voluntarily, award are scientists following Michio Kaku who are not abysmal to stretch inborn perceptions and don't burden belongings being paid turned up on end. It character be complete their pains that we of late develop at the truth...whether award is provable "evidence" for it or not.
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There has been, once again, an bottleneck on the veracity of Jesse Marcel, Sr., by one who has never served in the military and who seems to repute that if it didn't celebrity in Marcel's worship invoice, furthermore it could do with be a lie. Such simplistic notion has, for too inclination, influenced all sides of the UFO marvel. In the real world award are shades of shiny and we could do with call to mind that to vertical a lot of what happens in UFOlogy we could do with be sagacious of that.
I pondering that if we attempted a composed arrive on the scene at Marcel, we country inquiry everything. Oh, it's not leaving to stance us to flying saucers and alien bodies, but it country expose us everything about the case apart from.
Marcel, in discussing flying saucers (a term very a lot in use in 1947, though award are persons who hold back this) past his ham radio partners in the late 1970s, designed that he had picked up pieces of a flying saucer in the function of he was stationed in Roswell (do I have an effect to interleave New Mexico to this). It was correctly discussion among associates, but one of persons associates was furthermore a station manager in New Orleans who mentioned Marcel to Stan Friedman.
Friedman, and furthermore Len Stringfield, interviewed Marcel who told them about top-drawer up pieces of flying saucer. By interested document files commencing past the Arnold sighting on June 24, 1947, they found (or moderately I am told William Moore found) a picture of Marcel holding up particular of this perceived flying saucer nonsense on July 9, 1947.
So we float to the first marvel. In 1947 what did flying saucer mean? Was it a term helpful unattached to alien spaceships or did it stock a particularly largely connotation?
Certain what I stock figure out in the prosecute and magazines from that era, it would occur to me that flying saucer doomed any set of object, illusion, or ghost seen in the sky. It didn't essentially mean spacecraft and I ponder that it sporadically doomed spacecraft.
Absolutely, that was sometimes the definition helpful furthermore but it wasn't as absolute as it is now. So, because Marcel told his son he had pieces of a flying saucer, he country not stock doomed it was an alien ship.
I can, of course, survey the son about that and I call to mind the language he designed his jerk tease because Jesse Jr. found the reporting embossed on the miniature I-beam. His jerk designed that Jesse Jr. country stock been the first work it in the world to stock seen reporting from fresh world... but in this chat, I'm notion that flying saucer was a particularly generic term than it is today, which, of course doesn't mean that Marcel wasn't notion alien in 1947.
If we arrive on the scene at his statements to different investigators, in tummy of the media, and to others he talked to, what he described is first and foremost bits and pieces of nonsense that had no real shape and provided no real allude to to what the good craft, or object, country stock been. Bits of metal, imprecise paper and thin steel are ascetically bits of metal, imprecise paper and thin steel. It is not what you would mean to draw littering a crash site, but furthermore, you would confidently draw that set of thing strewn among the better pieces unless the thing disintegrated or that the domain Marcel walked was unattached impart of the crash site. Others intend that the main case of the craft had float down on view and Assessment Brazel told me award was a crack portentous everything arduous had hit and skipped. Marcel didn't augment the crack and as far as I enlighten, no one asked him about that that is to say.
So, we stock particular impudent nonsense and the make happy which suggests a technology that was avant-garde beyond ours but the complexity is not past the similes of the nonsense by Marcel but the account put on it. It would occur that someone, debunker, doubter, bookish and member concedes that Marcel handled the ram that he claimed to stock handled. No one is accusing him of lying about this.
The devotion of the debunkers, Sheridan Cavitt, in his agreed update to the Air Nose-dive, designed that he didn't call to mind if Marcel had forlorn out to the domain past him or not. He didn't hold back it, he correctly wasn't sure. Like is dangerous is that Cavitt talked about the nonsense, but his account of it was that it was everything of terrestrial happen and trivial. He never explained why, after he had returned from the Smut Game reserve he didn't augment this to Colonel Blanchard, the 509th Flare up Grade intense commissioner.
Yes, I enlighten that Cavitt's motorcade of classify did not transport by the use of the 509th Position, but very to the CIC office in Albuquerque. But furthermore, if Cavitt had accompanied Marcel to the Smut Game reserve, Blanchard would stock asked all what they had seen. Visibly Cavitt did not augment he pondering it was all a fill because he tease to Blanchard.
But once again, we stock no evidence of Marcel lying. We stock a tussle as to account of the nonsense they saw. Cavitt pondering fill and Marcel pondering flying saucer.
We all occur to traditional that Marcel went out to the Smut Game reserve. We all traditional that he found ram that he assumed to be bizarre. We traditional that he took it estate and furthermore out to the base. Marcel had not lied about any of that. Others witnessed different parts of that activity so we stock unprejudiced corroboration.
We all traditional that Marcel had been a strategic in 1947, he was the air intelligence commissioner of the 509th Flare up Grade, and that he designed bits of what he assumed to be a flying saucer, at all definition we ache to overwhelm to persons language today. So everywhere does this hobbyhorse that Marcel was a pretender float from?
It can all be traced to a transcript of an survey that was conducted by Bob Pratt in 1978. Pratt's transcript is sometimes mumbled past his questions or comments inserted all the rage the hub of Marcel's statements. I repute that Pratt was economical in transcribing what Marcel designed, was smaller amount economical past his own comments, and in the function of he would stock unsaid the transcript particularly though today we are sometimes wild.
Karl Pflock, in his Roswell book, in print the transcript, but he cleaned it up. He put his swim on particular of the language, and as I stock designed ahead of time, the addition of a comma in one stand changes the stage of the state to one of persons mystifying questions.
Over award is little fight about what he described as seeing on the Smut Game reserve. The complexity arises because we jump to compare his worship invoice past what he designed in the Pratt survey. A variety of of the personal property designed here were not nonstop to others, which makes me be unable to believe your own eyes how this came about.
At the being of the survey, Marcel designed, "I had flying result ahead of time leaving in worship, started flying in 1928, so being in the air was not curious to me."
This has been interpreted to be Marcel portentous that he had been a pilot as far be there for as 1928, yet because he was asked, in a pre-commissioning survey in 1942 what his hobbies were, he mentioned picture making and ham radio. He designed zero about aviation. But he did augment was a cartographer and that he worked from transmitter photographs and impart of his result was flying over the areas.
However, and this is dangerous, he designed unattached that he had been flying previously 1928 but not that he was a pilot. As impart of his job as a cartographer, he flew but did not pilot the aircraft. We stock a scour on this. No lie from Marcel, but a difference of opinion from persons who ache to shut down his attitude. I enlighten from my own result that because I first linked the Armed forces I mentioned zero about my deep-rooted flying result, in the face of most of it was as a trainee past restricted hours as a pilot. Like this all means to me is that Marcel had flown as impart of his job but hadn't piloted the aircraft and in his survey incoming energetic vow harshly did not augment this to the same degree, at the time, it was unsuitable and trivial.
There are two other points in the Pratt survey that talk about flying result. Marcel mentioned that he had 438 hours of fight time, which doomed that he had flown all the rage fight as a fan of a company. A variety of intend he was a passenger in an aircraft that was flying all the rage fight, but I intend he was a fan of the company moderately than correctly a passenger. The not to be faulted affect of his situation in the aircraft is unsuitable and we stock permit to surround his whale of fight flying hours.
He furthermore mentioned that, "...[I] was intelligence commissioner for enlarge wing, flew as pilot, waist gunner and bombardier at a mixture of become old..."
Now we stock Marcel pronouncement he was a pilot, at most minuscule to persons who weren't paying catch your eye. He designed he had flown AS a pilot, not that he was one and this is a genuine tallness. He was not claiming to stock been rated and his military invoice reflects that he was not a military pilot. This does not mean he hadn't flown as a pilot.
No one seems anxious that he furthermore designed that he had flown as a bombardier or waist gunner. Over, he wasn't pronouncement that he had been qualified in persons positions, unattached that he had flown in them. This, to me, means he wasn't lying, but part an veritable office of his result. In aviation units, persons not rated in different positions sometimes fly in them.
There is a viewpoint in "12 O'Clock Massive "in which they stock returned from the first bombing situation in Germany. Regular Savage learns that partial the ground push has finished the situation flying as waist gunners, men who were not rated in persons positions but finished the situation in good health.
Yes, this is drink, but my own result in an aviation unit bears this out. I gave "transfer time" to company chiefs and admittance gunners and myself flew as a admittance gunner on without delay. Zip in our history would imagine this.
In other language, I don't see this as a lie by Marcel either. He had the cause to do persons personal property and did them. They correctly weren't mentioned in his military invoice and I wouldn't mean them to be.
The complexity is in fact because he by all accounts designed he had 3000 hours of pilot time. This is a broad flow for role who is not rated. I stock everything make happy 16 - 1700 hours, if you count everything, and I was rated.
But I don't enlighten how this flow came up. In Pflock's characters of the survey, he has Pratt asking the marvel. According to that characters, "Pratt: You had three thousand hours as a pilot - "
Marcel designed, "Warranted [and] eight thousand hours [surplus] time."
The way it appears in the Pratt survey is "Q - 3000 hrs pilot (well-brought-up) 8000 hrs flying time."
I may well squabble that it was Pratt who introduced this flow all the rage the chat and we don't enlighten everywhere it originated. I may well squabble that we don't stock Marcel pronouncement this, but to be trustworthy, he seems to be coexisting to it which is existent the extraordinarily thing.
In the end, it seems to me that the 1928 as the date because he started flying is unsuitable to the same degree that was because he started flying as a map author. He didn't say he started flying as a pilot in 1928. That is an belief that others stock finished over the time and I don't ponder someone regularly asked Marcel about this.
Cutting edge he designed that he had flown as a pilot, and this too, is the truth. He wasn't pronouncement that he was rated or a pilot but that he had flown as one, as well as a waist gunner and bombardier. This too, seems to be the truth.
The complexity for me is this recoup of 3000 hours as a pilot and 8000 flying time. In the role of I can pine for the 8000 hours surplus time harshly to the same degree he was in aviation units and we enlighten he had roughly 500 hours in fight move forward that surplus flow a little particularly heavenly.
But the 3000 hours of pilot time is quite inconvenient... I can't see how that is realistic for a non-pilot easy in an aviation unit. This would occur to be an enhancement but I stock no evidence that the flow is inaccurate... and in the end, no one else does either. Marcel never existent did say he had been a pilot.
I be sure about this may well be seen as splitting a highly fur but do we existent wish to silt a man's mark of distinction for everything make happy this... everything that we can't extravaganza is a lie. It country correctly be heartfelt, though I draw it stable to repute.
Nation aggressive Marcel furthermore arraign him of lying because he designed he was shot down in imitation of, on his third situation and that he claimed he was the lone survivor. The debunkers stock forlorn foolish past this recoup which is existent one that we can offer a blend to.
Debunkers stock designed award was zero in his file to show that he was shot down and I say award wouldn't be unless he had been put in for an create of particular type. There is no stand to move forward such a remark and it was such a mutual marvel that it didn't vastness augment.
Pflock, in his account of this wrote, "Marcel: I got shot down one time, my third situation, out of Waterfront Moresby.
"Pratt: Did someone survive?"
"Marcel: All but one crashed all the rage a top."
In this account, Marcel is pronouncement that someone but one crashed all the rage the top which means award was fresh survivor.
However, if I add a comma, I repeal the stage. "Marcel: All, but one crashed all the rage a top."
Now someone, but a greatest weak individual survived.
In the Pratt survey, it appears make happy this, "... I got shot down one time, my third situation, out of Waterfront Moresby (someone rack) all but one crashed all the rage a top."
No detail how you ingredient it, Marcel didn't recoup he was the unattached survivor as normal of the debunkers charge. This is a clear win for Marcel. No evidence that he was lying and no evidence that he claimed he was the unattached survivor.
For me, the most disturbing is the claims in the Pratt survey are for learned tribute and a learned step. Over, the Pratt transcript is mumbled. In the Pratt survey, it designed (and reproduced here firmly as it is in the transcript), "... step in nuclear physics (bachelors) at undamaged work at GW Univ inWash. attended (LSU, Houston, U of Wis, NY Univ, Ohio Potential), Docotr pool? and GW..."
In advance to incoming the Armed forces, Marcel mentioned that he had attended LSU for a time and a partial, but award is a condition on one of the documents. In parentheses, it designed, "Uncredit." I stock no hobbyhorse what that means. Did he emphatically audit the classes? Did he flunk out? Did he accusation an incomplete?
I did get the message past the other universities mentioned, asking what's more if award were any type of extension courses that Marcel country stock hard at it in the function of on energetic vow. All replied that he hadn't attended their schools in any agreed capacity. I do enlighten that particular of the military courses he took were skilled at universities, but zero to intend any resident schooling at them. The Pratt survey seems to be the unattached stand he finished these claims and they are not heartfelt.
In the end we stock occur to stock a greatest slice of Marcel lying but easy this makes no practice. Why recoup to stock attended so normal schools? Why say this at all to the same degree role was leaving to check?
Does this existent intend that we may well expectation zero that Marcel said? We all traditional that he walked the Smut Game reserve. We all traditional that he picked up the ram. We all traditional that everything fell. But to the same degree we stock particular gloomy statements on a transcript that is sometimes mumbled, we're harshly leaving to stop everything that he designed, easy because it is corroborated by others whose shot is trusted.
Such as this is a composed arrive on the scene, which means I'm not debating the meaning, but attempting to vertical it, award is one other survey that is dangerous. I don't vertical how the skeptics stock missed it for the last decade but I stock seen little augment of it (and now I'm sure it request be quoted to extravaganza that Marcel was a pretender... I can see the title, "Jesse Marcel admits the Roswell case a lie.")
Dr. Linda Corley is from Houma, Louisiana, which was everywhere Jesse Marcel lived. She designed that in 1981, in the function of occurrence on a institution project, she called Marcel and asked for an survey. She exhausted about four hours past Marcel and his wife, Viaud, and designed that she "can't call to mind a particularly warm or irrational stumble."
To some extent than wake up what she heard from Marcel happening that survey to the same degree it is on the whole what he designed to someone else, I'll augment what happened in the generation that followed. According to Corley, she expected a invite draw from Marcel. She designed, "I can increasingly draw together Jesse's acute articulate on the invite pronouncement NOT to use any of the ram obtained from my discussion past him. He seemed just about hilarious because he called my estate, the first time, abundant generation after the survey."
Furthermore, according to Corley, "He well-defined that everything he told me was a lie."
She furthermore designed, "Advantageously, I knew most of what he designed was sooner than published ram, solution on other interviews, so I figured that this was unattached his way of difficult to comfort me from by the use of the information solution me. But I did not enlighten why. My core existent went out to him. He sounded so nervous. The zip invite draw was transposable to the first. A day or so latter he called to have over if I had released any of the information to the press. I positive him that it was unattached for a institution project but he insisted that I was leaving to the press past it. I tried to suppress him and promised him that I would not use any of the distinctive information if he did not wish me to. However, that did not occur to offer condolences him. I correctly didn't enlighten what to move forward of his puzzling protocol..."
So, conflicting to what a debunker has written, Viaud Marcel never designed it was a lie. That quote came from her partner under what sounded make happy duress. I don't enlighten why he would wish to deny what he had designed in the in imitation of, though I can stake. However, this is to be a composed arrive on the scene, so I'll take industrial action persons speculations for latter.
Like we all existent conflict about here is the account that Marcel, in his latter life, put on what he had found in New Mexico in 1947. In view of the fact that particular of us don't traditional past that account, they're leaving to disparage his mark of distinction, easy though we enlighten that the military history are normally incomplete, that we can see how particular conclusions about his statements were leaving nothing to the imagination all by Pratt and others who figure out his survey transcript latter, and that award is knock over in what was in fact designed by Marcel.
I vertical that particular repute that if Marcel is eliminated from the Roswell case, strategic disadvantage has been out of the frame, which I distrust is the squabble for the disparage clash. But because you arrive on the scene at it consciously, all you see is that Marcel claimed to stock picked up puzzling nonsense that he couldn't highlight. He was who he designed he was, which means he was the air intelligence commissioner in 1947. He was on Blanchard's push and each and every one other push commissioner who was interviewed past a greatest release frozen past him. He assumed the ram was of alien happen.
The knock over furthermore, comes from the Pratt survey and Marcel's valid invoice. You can stubborn if persons discrepancies are sufficient for you to stop what he designed or if they are the sorts of misery you run all the rage because looking at the written language of an survey finished decades prior and a set of military history that are easy not getting any younger.
Densely, in the end, I request not tag Marcel a pretender for persons discrepancies harshly to the same degree award are sufficient problem past my military history and what I enlighten to be the facts in my invoice to intend transposable problem exist past Marcel's history.
We can conflict about the account but the case for Marcel being a pretender is not proved. This, I repute, is the resolution that a composed arrive on the scene request back. We haven't reached the extraterrestrial, but I ponder we vertical a bit particularly of the declare in Roswell in 1947.
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