What follows is a direct transcript used with permission, of an interviewI conducted with John Lear, author of Lear.txt in the files section.Hopefully, this interview will answer some of your questions as well as someof mine.Brad Langton 02-Feb-88 approx. 1:30AM to 3:30AMLANGTON> Ok, were "live" so to speak.. you just mentioned that there were 70other species in contact with this world... of which 4 others were overt...are they aware of the EBE's? Yes they are. The types I will mention are listed in a USAF AcademyPhysics book called Introductory Space Science Volume 2. I refer to Chapter 13about page 8 which lists the ones that are most seen. They are the EBE'sthe "blondes' (also called the Nordics) they look just like us but areinvariably blonde haired and blue eyed. Don;t know where theycome from but they do not interact with us except for a few abductions now andthen. We also have a species that is similar to us in appearance but they areabout 7 ft tall and the main difference is that their eyes wrap around thehead a little more than ours. Another type listed is a small species about4 ft. tall, very hairy and extremely strong for their size. We don'tknow where these guys come from either. All this was in the aforementionedtext which was withdrawn by the Air Force in the early 70's from the book.But there are several people that have the original book. The EBE's areabout the only ones where we are pretty sure where they come from and thatis Zeta Reticuli 1 ' (and as late as one weekago)that the situation is 'ominous' Please understand my pauses... have to consider the next question... Ok meantime looking for the date and issue of Nature. I recall now, one of my users requested information on the "RoswellIncident" and if it were in any way tied to any of this? Yes, the Roswell crash was the first recovered flying saucer crash inthe U.S. Bill Moore located 90 material witnesses to the crash. It was nearCorona, N.M. and a few months ago I interviewed Mrs. Procter near whoseranch this thing crashed. 4 bodies were recovered. There is one personstill alive at this moment who helped Mac Brazel drag some of the wreckageto the shed. He and Brazel were approached at that time by (I know itshard to believe but the guy is going to come forward soon) an alien whotold them both to keep their mouths shut. He is the last guy alive thatwas directly connected with that retrieval. Are you saying that the others involved were murdered? No. No. They have just passed away. That was a long time ago. The lastguy to die was Maj. Jesse Marcel, The intelligence officer at Roswell whowent out and helped pick up he wreckage. Before he died a few years agohe went public with his account which was that the crash was not a balloon ora radar reflector or an airplane. He didn't state what it was, but saidit was not of this earth. I have a transcript of the cassette tape ofhis memories of picking up the wreckage, its only a page long if youwould like me to send that. Of course, any information you have will be helpful... what ofyourself, why are you coming forward now, particularly placing the spotlighton yourself... aren't you concerned that there may be some sort ofrepercussions from the government regarding the stir this is and will continueto cause? Hopefully the spotlight will be on the information and not on myself.No there is not too much worry because well let me say that 5 years ago Iwouldn't have gotten away with this but things are so screwed up now that onevoice talking to...what 50? 100? people cant make any possible difference.Also if something was going to happen it would have happened a few weeks ago.I wrote Dr. Lew Allen, Director of JPL and MJ-12 member that I was going todo a story on his participation in MJ-12 particularly because JPL employed8000 people in the Southern California area. I also enclosed a copy of myhypothesis and told him it was on Paranet and Compuserve. Dr. Allen hasa reputation of responding to all mail in a very prompt manner. But me?I didn't hear anything. Not even a "John Lear you must be crazy." Hewrote a letter to Max Fiebleman of Los Angeles on the 18th of DecemberMax had sent him a copy of the Hudson Valley video and asked Dr. Allento look at it. Dr. Allen responded that he had taken a quick glance butdid not have the time for anything more and on the basis of what he sawdetermined that it was a blimp. He also wished Max a Merry Christmas.Now......this is one of the worlds greatest scientists? Not interestedin that Hudson Valley video tape? Gimme a break. There are certainly a lot of inconsistencies seemingly fromeverywhere on this issue. As you know, Jim Speiser and Paranet are oftenpublished in some form, usually a quote from Jim, in the major UFOlogymagazines... I would suspect that this matter will be reaching a lot morepeople than just those of us here in the BBS community. What of the future...can we expect more information, hard or soft evidence that will help align theapparent inconsistencies or at best, give a more cohesive picture of some ofthe answers to questions that your original release has raised? I would be very surprised if some kind of statement from the governmentis not forthcoming within the year, more probably within 6 months possiblymuch sooner.,. Thats about all I can speculate from the information I amgetting. Well, you can be assured that we will be continuing to watch thesedevelopments should they occur. Last year there was a similar promise of majorinformation by year's end... you got in just under the wire but the otherinformation was not this information, at least not necessarily as coming fromyou. Time is running short for me here and I want to thank you for incurringthe phone bill for this interview but I think it is important that we try toget as many answers on this as possible Do you have any closing statementsthat you would like to make at this time? Just to thank you for your time and I will be sending you theaforementioned documents etc. Thank you very much John, you're participation will no doubt add alevel of credibility to your desire to spare little expense in helping us findthe truth about all this. Thanks again, and talk to you later.Copyright @1988 National Fringe Sciences Information Service. All RightsReserved.
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